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12/04/2009 10:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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10:12:02 AM Start
10:12:12 AM Overview(s): Economic Development
01:19:37 PM Adjourn
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-- Teleconference --
Economic Development:Identifying Gaps
and Solutions in Preparation for the
2010 Legislative Session
Review of economic development configura-
tion in Alaska's agencies, models from
other states, solutions under development
and potential changes to Alaska's
economic development system
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                       Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                        
                        December 4, 2009                                                                                        
                           10:12 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz, Co-Chair                                                                                   
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ERIN HARRINGTON, Staff                                                                                                          
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Reviewed the report entitled "Economic                                                                   
Development in State Government."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL CATSI, President                                                                                                        
Alaska Partnership for Economic Development (APED);                                                                             
Executive   Director,  Southwest   Alaska  Municipal   Conference                                                               
(SWAMC)                                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the Alaska Forward Initiative.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN TORGERSON, Executive Director                                                                                              
Kenai Peninsula Economic Development District, Inc.                                                                             
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Discussed  his  experience  and  view  of                                                             
economic development in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN BELL, Special Staff Assistant                                                                                             
Office of the Governor                                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Discussed  Governor  Parnell's plans  with                                                             
regard to economic development.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TED LEONARD, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA)                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented a  slide presentation  about the                                                             
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIEDA).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EMIL NOTTI, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Discussed  essential elements  for economic                                                             
growth.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BLACK, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the organization of DCCED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to technical  difficulties the  first few  minutes of  this                                                               
meeting were not recorded.]                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:12:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BOB  HERRON called  the  House  Community and  Regional                                                             
Affairs Standing  Committee meeting to  order at 10:07  a.m., but                                                               
the recording  did not  begin until  10:12 a.m.   Representatives                                                               
Herron, Munoz, Millett,  Cissna, and Gardner were  present at the                                                               
call to order.   Also in attendance  were Representatives Edgmon,                                                               
Austerman, Seaton, and Tuck.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S):  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:12:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN drew  the  committee's  attention to  a                                                               
book entitled  "Economic Development in State  Government," which                                                               
is  a compilation  of the  work  of staff  in reviewing  economic                                                               
models  in various  states, particularly  those  states that  are                                                               
more successful with economic  development, and potential changes                                                               
to Alaska's economic development system.   He then mentioned that                                                               
there  are a  number  of things  that could  be  done to  address                                                               
economic  development  in  Alaska,  including  returning  to  the                                                               
Department  of  Commerce  and  the   Department  of  Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development and  whether  energy should  be a  division                                                               
within one of  those departments or the  [Department of Commerce,                                                               
Community, & Economic Development (DCCED)].                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:14:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA opined  that  the  more comprehensive  the                                                               
[approach to economic development in Alaska] the better.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN  noted  his agreement  that  everything                                                               
flowing through  the state is inter-related,  but highlighted the                                                               
need to  focus on  separate matters  in order  to make  them come                                                               
together.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:15:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked  whether Representative Austerman has                                                               
a specific proposal in mind or  is this hearing an effort to work                                                               
toward a specific proposal.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN  answered  that  this  hearing  is  the                                                               
effort to work toward a specific  proposal.  He related that when                                                               
this discussion began his first  reaction was to split DCCED into                                                               
two   departments.      However,   he  did   realize   that   the                                                               
aforementioned  is likely  not the  best solution.   Furthermore,                                                               
during  last session  there was  discussion regarding  creating a                                                               
Department  of Energy.   He  said he  didn't want  to create  new                                                               
bureaucracies, and  with the possibility of  three departments he                                                               
would lean  instead toward strong  divisions within  the existing                                                               
department.     This  is  merely   a  starting  point   for  this                                                               
discussion,  which  he hoped  the  House  Community and  Regional                                                               
Affairs  Standing  Committee will  take  up  during the  upcoming                                                               
session, he related.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:17:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ERIN  HARRINGTON, Staff,  Representative  Alan Austerman,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,   explained  that   Representative  Austerman                                                               
requested  that his  staff review  the effort  being expended  on                                                               
economic  development in  the state  as  well as  review what  is                                                               
occurring  in other  states.   She acknowledged  that the  Alaska                                                               
Industrial Development  and Export  Authority (AIDEA)  has worked                                                               
on economic  development long  before she  and other  staff began                                                               
reviewing it.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:19:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  interjected that one component  of what                                                               
started  this conversation  was  began by  former Governor  Palin                                                               
when, with her LEGACY Plan,  staff reviewed economic development.                                                               
The new administration is continuing  to work on the LEGACY Plan,                                                               
but Representative  Austerman suggested that the  legislature has                                                               
to be part of the review as well.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:20:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON   directed  the  committee's  attention   to  the                                                               
"Briefing Paper:  Economic Development  in State  Government" the                                                               
first  page of  which includes  the following  quote from  Robert                                                               
Shively, Economic Development for  Small Communities:  "Community                                                               
development is capacity building;  economic development is wealth                                                               
creation."   The  differentiation  between community  development                                                               
and economic development  is not always well made in  Alaska.  At                                                               
its base  community development is development  of infrastructure                                                               
and public  facilities.  She  suggested that the  committee could                                                               
think  of  community  development  as those  services  for  which                                                               
government  provides fund,  such as  roads, cultural/intellectual                                                               
facilities,  and other  things that  aren't developed  by private                                                               
business.  Economic development, on  the other hand, is work that                                                               
leads to investment  by the private sector, such  as the creation                                                               
of  wealth  and jobs  as  well  as  the  retention of  wealth  in                                                               
communities,  and   an  increase  in  the   standard  of  living.                                                               
Community development projects might be  those in which water and                                                               
sewer  infrastructure is  installed,  she said.   Such  community                                                               
development  may be  installed  to  support economic  development                                                               
such  as  the construction  of  a  clinic  by a  private  medical                                                               
practice.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:22:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON  then explained  that  first  staff reviewed  the                                                               
current  resources  within  state government  that  are  directed                                                               
toward economic development.   The state does have  the Office of                                                               
Economic Development  (OED) within  DCCED, the  head of  which is                                                               
Joe Austerman.   The  mission of  OED, per  the fiscal  year (FY)                                                               
2010 budget,  is to advance successful  tourism, film, fisheries,                                                               
forest   products,  minerals,   and  small   business  assistance                                                               
programs  in order  to increase  economic activity  in Alaska  as                                                               
well as  create new  employment opportunities  for Alaska.   That                                                               
mission  is  very  specific  to   a  handful  of  industries  and                                                               
activities, which she  attributed to the makeup  of Alaska's OED.                                                               
The  OED, as  currently organized,  has  a division  head and  11                                                               
employees in  five sub-programs.   The five sub-programs  are the                                                               
Alaska Film  Office, Business  Development, Office  of Fisheries,                                                               
Office  of  Mineral  Development,   and  Tourism  Program.    Ms.                                                               
Harrington pointed  out that in some  cases statutory obligations                                                               
are  linked to  the  sub-programs, which  partially explains  the                                                               
state's "silo" approach to economic  development.  She noted that                                                               
OED  does   provide  technical   support,  report   writing,  and                                                               
answering questions  on specific  industries.   The staff  of OED                                                               
has  experts in  the division  in  which they're  employed.   She                                                               
characterized these employees as assets to the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:24:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON highlighted that also  within DCCED is AIDEA.  Per                                                               
the FY  10 Governor's Operating  budget, the mission of  AIDEA, a                                                               
financing  organization,  is  "to  promote  economic  growth  and                                                               
diversification in Alaska."  Although  AIDEA is restructuring its                                                               
mission,  AIDEA focuses  on  industrial  development and  putting                                                               
together financing  packages to enable large  development such as                                                               
the Red Dog  Mine and port development.   Additionally, AIDEA has                                                               
some smaller  loan programs,  some of  which are  administered by                                                               
the Division of  Investments.  As a finance  organization, it has                                                               
a  somewhat  limited role.    The  Board  of Directors  of  AIDEA                                                               
consists of five  people, of which two  members are commissioners                                                               
and  one member  is  appointed  by the  governor  and two  public                                                               
members  are  appointed  by  the  governor.   As  an  aside,  Ms.                                                               
Harrington related that  those two public board  members of AIDEA                                                               
are the only members of the  private sector who currently have an                                                               
official  capacity in  advising  economic development  activities                                                               
within state government.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:26:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ  inquired as  to the  amount of  bonding authority                                                               
AIDEA has.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON  responded that she didn't  have that information,                                                               
but  deferred  to  AIDEA  staff.     She  then  returned  to  her                                                               
presentation and  informed the committee  that between  AIDEA and                                                               
the   Alaska  Energy   Authority   (AEA)  there   are  about   30                                                               
professional staff  who work on economic  development matters and                                                               
the finance programs  that support it.  She  further informed the                                                               
committee that AIDEA is a public corporation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:27:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON then told the  committee that also within DCCED is                                                               
the Division of Investments (DOI),  the primary responsibility of                                                               
which is to  administer and service 12 state  loan programs under                                                               
DCCED.    Those  programs  are   primarily  designed  to  promote                                                               
economic development  through direct state lending  in industries                                                               
not  adequately serviced  by the  private sector.   To  date, the                                                               
majority  of  programs  that  have  been  set  up  through  state                                                               
government and  serviced by DOI  focus on the  commercial fishing                                                               
industry.   In general, those  programs are well  appreciated and                                                               
utilized,  although   they're  not  comprehensive   across  small                                                               
business economic  development across  the state.   The authority                                                               
DOI  has to  make loans  is relatively  narrow, she  noted.   The                                                               
funding DOI has is through  the revolving loan programs that have                                                               
been  established  and capitalized  in  the  past.   Furthermore,                                                               
those  programs, per  Ms. Harrington's  understanding, are  self-                                                               
supporting  and  have  been  for  some time.    There  are  other                                                               
activities that  can be seen as  supporting economic development,                                                               
which are  included on  the matrix provided  to the  committee by                                                               
OED.  This chart reviews  programs across other agencies that are                                                               
viewed   as  supporting   economic  development,   including  the                                                               
Department  of  Natural  Resources (DNR)  Alaska  Grown  program.                                                               
However, these  other programs are  small and aren't  a concerted                                                               
effort, she remarked.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:29:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON  acknowledged  that  outside  of  Alaska's  state                                                               
government  there   are  other   entities  working   on  economic                                                               
development, of which  the primary entity is  the Alaska Regional                                                               
Development Organizations  (ARDORs).  The ARDORs,  she explained,                                                               
perform   regional  economic   development  activities   and  are                                                               
authorized to receive a certain  amount of funding from the state                                                               
annually through a  grant process.  However,  since the programs'                                                               
inception  in 1992,  it has  received $50,000  annually with  the                                                               
exception of the  addition of a small amount of  funding a couple                                                               
of  years ago  when  a new  ARDOR  was formed.    The ARDORs  are                                                               
intended to:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        · enable   communities   to   pool   their   limited                                                                    
          resources,   and   work   together   on   economic                                                                    
          development issues;                                                                                                   
        · develop partnerships among public, private and                                                                        
          other organizations;                                                                                                  
        · offer a technical, nonpartisan capacity to                                                                            
          develop and implement an economic development                                                                         
          strategy;                                                                                                             
        · often     have    extensive     experience    with                                                                    
          federal/state programs; and                                                                                           
        · provide needed technical assistance via direct                                                                        
          links with local citizens.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON  related  her understanding  that  there  are  13                                                               
ARDORs in the  state that work/function at various  levels due to                                                               
how successful  the organizations have  been and in terms  of how                                                               
successful they  have been  in attracting  outside funding.   For                                                               
example,  the Southwest  Alaska Municipal  Conference ARDOR  is a                                                               
fairly  successful ARDOR  with  several  staff positions  whereas                                                               
there are  other ARDORs  that only  have one  half-time position.                                                               
In Alaska, as  the committee well knows, the  regions which these                                                               
ARDORs  serve are  fairly large  geographically.   Ms. Harrington                                                               
noted  that  there  are  a  number  of  small  regional  economic                                                               
development   organizations,   such   as  the   Juneau   Economic                                                               
Development  Corporation, working  toward a  larger vision  while                                                               
working at  the regional  level.   Other small  regional economic                                                               
development organizations are  the Fairbanks Economic Development                                                               
Corporation and the Alaska Village Initiatives.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:32:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON  told the committee  that in the  university there                                                               
are two  specific programs that  support economic  development in                                                               
the state.   One  of those  programs is  the Center  for Economic                                                               
Development  at the  Institute of  Social  and Economic  Research                                                               
(ISER)  located  in  Anchorage.   The  center  receives  a  large                                                               
portion  of   its  funding   through  the   Economic  Development                                                               
Administration (EDA),  which is  a federal  program.   The Center                                                               
for  Economic  Development  essentially  provides  assistance  to                                                               
larger  organizations, such  as municipalities  and tribes.   The                                                               
center  is  generally  supported  by   a  fee  for  the  service.                                                               
Therefore, the  center and its  funds aren't freely  available to                                                               
any entity.   Recently,  the center  began to  offer professional                                                               
training for  those seeking professional development  as economic                                                               
development specialists.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:34:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON, in response  to Representative Gardner, explained                                                               
that certification is put together  by the International Economic                                                               
Development  Council (IEDC)  such  that one  would  go through  a                                                               
series of courses after which one  must sit through an exam.  She                                                               
likened the exam to that  of a certified public accountant (CPA).                                                               
This  program allows  professionals to  attend these  classes and                                                               
eventually   sit  for   the  exam   for  the   IEDC  to   receive                                                               
certification.  Since the aforementioned  has been offered, quite                                                               
a few people  have attended the classes and thus  there are folks                                                               
who are ready to sit for the exam.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:35:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked if the occupation  of economic development                                                               
specialists is an exclusive occupation in the nation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON  replied no, but  added that it's  a certification                                                               
that's an asset  for those working in this field.   For instance,                                                               
some   of  those   running  economic   development  agencies   or                                                               
corporations have related  that many of those on  staff have IEDC                                                               
certification.     One   other   organization  provides   similar                                                               
certification, she  noted.  These [economic  development agencies                                                               
or  organizations]  view  this certification  as  something  that                                                               
staff should have or be  working toward.  Ms. Harrington informed                                                               
the  committee that  when  the report  was  being compiled  there                                                               
wasn't a certified economic  development specialist, but recently                                                               
Ketchikan recruited such a professional.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:37:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON returned  to her  presentation  and informed  the                                                               
committee  that the  other  asset in  state  government is  Small                                                               
Business  Development  Centers  (SBDC).   The  SBDC  has  centers                                                               
throughout the  state as  well as roaming  staff who  serve rural                                                               
Alaska.   However,  for  some  reason there  are  areas in  rural                                                               
Alaska  that  are excluded.    Ms.  Harrington pointed  out  that                                                               
although Alaska's  resources are fairly slim;  they are something                                                               
from which to build.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:38:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON then  turned  to  the topic  of  how other  state                                                               
governments  are addressing  economic  development.   The  report                                                               
reviewed North Dakota, Wyoming, and  Oregon in the greatest depth                                                               
as well  as Kentucky, Indiana,  and Washington all of  which have                                                               
been  recognized for  their economic  development programs.   She                                                               
pointed out that  the report provides more specifics  for each of                                                               
the states reviewed  than she will discuss.   Overall, each state                                                               
addresses economic  development differently.  For  instance, some                                                               
states have  chosen to establish  corporate structures  that have                                                               
taken  over some  formerly state  agency functions.   The  notion                                                               
behind  the  aforementioned is  to  operate  more leanly  and  to                                                               
reflect  the  business  environment  that they  support.    Other                                                               
states have  taken an  approach in which  the areas  of commerce,                                                               
business, and  economic development within larger  departments is                                                               
identified  and separated  into a  separate department,  which is                                                               
similar  to the  initial  thoughts  of Representative  Austerman.                                                               
The efforts in  this area have been lead by  different areas.  In                                                               
some  cases,   administrations  have   taken  the   lead  through                                                               
executive order  while in other  cases the legislature  has taken                                                               
the lead.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:40:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON highlighted  that  another important  commonality                                                               
with  the   states  that  are   recognized  for   their  economic                                                               
development programs is  that they have setup  a formal structure                                                               
to have  private sector oversight  or advisory capacity  into the                                                               
economic development work done by  the state.  The aforementioned                                                               
makes  sense, she  opined, because  economic  development is  all                                                               
about investment  by the private  sector.  In North  Dakota there                                                               
is an  advisory board that sits  at the head of  the North Dakota                                                               
Economic Development  Foundation.   A foundation  was established                                                               
because  it allows  them to  raise money  outside of  the state's                                                               
normal  budgeting process.   The  board that  oversees the  North                                                               
Dakota  Economic Development  Foundation has  a formal  statutory                                                               
role  in providing  input into  agency activities,  and therefore                                                               
the   board  performs   the  strategic   planning,  advises   the                                                               
commissioner  and  governor, and  serves  as  the contact  entity                                                               
regarding for what state resources should  be used.  The State of                                                               
Wyoming  established  a  corporate  body,  the  Wyoming  Business                                                               
Council,  such that  all  of the  functions  related to  economic                                                               
development were pulled out of the  state agencies.  The State of                                                               
Wyoming  also  pulled  out   some  infrastructure  and  community                                                               
development programs, which was a  small addition.  Any community                                                               
development in  Alaska will be  much larger than elsewhere.   She                                                               
noted that the Wyoming Business  Council has a board of directors                                                               
and  a chief  executive officer  (CEO).   The board  members, per                                                               
Wyoming statute, are successful business owners in Wyoming.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:43:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON  informed  the  committee  that  Kentucky  has  a                                                               
Cabinet  for  Economic  Development,  which is  governed  by  the                                                               
Kentucky Economic  Development Partnership Board.   The board has                                                               
a combination of  government and industry, in  which the governor                                                               
has a  strong role as  he/she is the head  of that cabinet.   The                                                               
State of  Indiana took a  corporate approach and  established the                                                               
Indiana Economic  Development Corporation,  which was  created to                                                               
replace  the  Indiana  Department  of Commerce.    The  corporate                                                               
approach, she  reminded the  committee, provides  the flexibility                                                               
to  work more  like  a  private sector  organization.   She  then                                                               
turned   to   the   State  of   Oregon,   which   completed   the                                                               
reorganization  of the  Oregon  Business Development  Department.                                                               
The  department  has  become  leaner   and  rebranded  itself  as                                                               
"Business  Oregon"  and  tried  to  make  it  clear  to  entities                                                               
entering the  state how to  do [business  in the state].   Oregon                                                               
has a  strategic plan, in  which four areas have  been identified                                                               
as having potential for growth, which is guiding its focus.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:44:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON then  turned to points to  consider about Alaska's                                                               
current  system.   She highlighted  that  currently, the  private                                                               
sector's input  into economic  development activity  within state                                                               
government  is limited  to  the  two public  seats  on the  AIDEA                                                               
Board.    Furthermore,  incentive  programs in  Alaska  are  very                                                               
limited, although there  are incentive programs for  oil and gas.                                                               
She noted that the New  Business Incentive Program [within DCCED]                                                               
isn't funded.  However, the  Film Incentive Office that's staffed                                                               
by OED staff is up and running.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:45:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  asked where  resource development  ties in                                                               
with economic  development, particularly in terms  of the fishing                                                               
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON acknowledged  that  resource  development is  the                                                               
foundation  for Alaska's  economy,  particularly  since it's  the                                                               
largest portion  of the  state's base sector.   The  state's base                                                               
sector  includes  industries that  bring  money  in from  out-of-                                                               
state versus  service industries  that re-circulate money  in the                                                               
state  for a  while.    Resource development,  she  said, is  the                                                               
foundation  of   any  economic  development   in  Alaska.     Ms.                                                               
Harrington noted  that most of  the states reviewed  were Western                                                               
states that have resource extraction  based industries as well as                                                               
agriculture and  tourism.   The efforts  in those  Western states                                                               
have focused  on business and  economic development that  is tied                                                               
to   the  primary   basic  sector.     Therefore,   the  economic                                                               
development  in Alaska  will most  likely look  at resources  and                                                               
ways  in which  to develop  the cluster  of businesses  that deal                                                               
with  those   resources.    She  specified   that  it's  economic                                                               
development  that creates  more value  and more  wealth from  the                                                               
resource  development, which  makes up  the majority  of Alaska's                                                               
basic economy.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:49:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  explained that  OED is trying  to model                                                               
what is  going on in Alaska  right now, such that  it's reviewing                                                               
what is generated  in economic development in Alaska  in terms of                                                               
wealth  and what  happens to  that.   The model  illustrates that                                                               
Alaska has  a fairly balanced  amount of wealth from  the state's                                                               
resources, but  it all funnels  down South.   At some  point, the                                                               
aforementioned has  to be  viewed as loss  of economic  wealth to                                                               
the  state  in terms  of  jobs  and  other items.    Furthermore,                                                               
there's the  notion that  if Alaska is  a resource  export state,                                                               
that's all  it will ever  be unless there are  incentive programs                                                               
that can bring  other wealth to the state in  order to create new                                                               
jobs.    All of  the  aforementioned  needs  to  be part  of  the                                                               
discussion, he opined.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:50:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON pointed  out that  what the  state has  to                                                               
offer in  terms of economic  development is fairly limited.   The                                                               
state can offer  low interest rate loans,  a favorable regulatory                                                               
climate, outreach,  and technical  assistance.  He  surmised that                                                               
the  discussion  today  surrounds  trying to  find  out  how  the                                                               
aforementioned assets  are placed  in Alaska,  how well  they are                                                               
functioning, and whether  they can be better defined  in order to                                                               
create more economic development in Alaska.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN replied  yes and no.   He explained that                                                               
with regard  to technical  assistance, one  is only  turning over                                                               
the same dollar.  However, bringing  in new wealth means that one                                                               
is reviewing how to build and grow the economy.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:52:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ asked if Ms.  Harrington considered state policies                                                               
and laws  that discourage business  investment, such  as taxation                                                               
policies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARRINGTON  replied no, adding  that the research  focused on                                                               
the tools the state  already has or does not have.   In regard to                                                               
Representative Edgmon's question, Ms.  Harrington opined that the                                                               
state  merely  has "shadows"  of  low  interest loans,  incentive                                                               
programs, and technical assistance  but no comprehensive way that                                                               
would  allow  there  to  be  broad  economic  development.    She                                                               
acknowledged  that  the state  has  low  interest loans  for  the                                                               
fishing industry and incentives for  the film industry as well as                                                               
technical  assistance  through  the   university  in  a  somewhat                                                               
limited capacity.   Still,  there are no  low interest  loans for                                                               
business that may creatively evolve in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:54:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  highlighted her  experience growing  up in                                                               
Seattle,  Washington,   where  a   lot  of  Alaskan   wealth  was                                                               
deposited.   She then  opined that  economic development  is more                                                               
than merely creation of wealth;  rather it's creation of survival                                                               
and survival  on one's own  terms.   The other part  of [economic                                                               
development]  is community  development.   She  pointed out  that                                                               
schools in rural  Alaska do not address  the astounding resources                                                               
that  surround   them.    If  the   communities  developed  those                                                               
resources, these communities would  survive.  Without communities                                                               
and their schools  focusing on the resources in the  town to grow                                                               
the  community's  capacity,  the conversation  the  committee  is                                                               
having dies.  Representative Cissna  expressed the need to review                                                               
economic development in a uniquely Alaskan way.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:58:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HARRINGTON,  concluding   her  presentation,   offered  the                                                               
following  points.   Alaska  has gone  from  having no  certified                                                               
economic developers  working in  Alaska to now  having one.   She                                                               
pointed  out   that  state   government  interactions   with  the                                                               
university's   resources  may   be   inefficient,  although   the                                                               
university  is well  prepared  to  perform technical  assistance.                                                               
She further pointed out, "State  government, through the auspices                                                               
of economic development, has really  focused on a set of specific                                                               
industries without  necessarily having the capacity  to look more                                                               
broadly   at  places   where  ...   business   may  evolve   more                                                               
organically."     As  an  aside,  Ms.   Harrington  informed  the                                                               
committee that  [economic development in the  state] doesn't have                                                               
a strong  web presence.   She  offered up  Oregon's website  as a                                                               
powerful website.   With regard  to statute, there's  very little                                                               
support to the economic developers in the state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:00:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARRINGTON then  directed the  committee's attention  to the                                                               
other  contents of  the committee  packet.   There is  a two-page                                                               
document    entitled   "Community    Development   or    Economic                                                               
Development?"  that discusses  the differences  between community                                                               
development and  economic development.  The  packet also includes                                                               
a  document entitled  "Legislation, Executive  Orders and  Policy                                                               
from Other States" which includes  information from the following                                                               
states:  North Dakota, Wyoming,  Oregon, Indiana, and Washington.                                                               
The information  for North Dakota  includes the  legislation that                                                               
established the  foundation and its  board that  provides private                                                               
oversight.     The   packet   also   includes  legislation   that                                                               
restructured   North  Dakota's   department.     There  is   also                                                               
legislation from  Wyoming, the Wyoming Economic  Development Act,                                                               
which specifies  the general  powers and  duties of  the council.                                                               
The  committee  packet also  includes  the  executive order  from                                                               
Oregon that laid the ground  work from its radical restructure of                                                               
its  [economic development]  department.   The backup  for Oregon                                                               
also includes a strategic plan  that led up to the aforementioned                                                               
change.  There  is also a report from a  commission that reviewed                                                               
Oregon's  version of  ARDORs from  which  long-term planning  was                                                               
done.  The  packet includes the executive order  for Indiana that                                                               
laid the  groundwork for  that state to  switch to  a corporation                                                               
for  economic activities.   At  the end  of the  Indiana section,                                                               
there is  documentation of the items  that are in the  toolbox of                                                               
Indiana.  She noted that  these are offerings that Alaska doesn't                                                               
necessarily   have.     The   committee   packet  also   includes                                                               
information from  the State of  Washington, including  an excerpt                                                               
from legislation  that helped restructure its  department.  There                                                               
is also a  summary of Washington's economic  incentives, which is                                                               
listed  on  Washington's web  site.    Ms. Harrington  said  this                                                               
information is  merely food for  thought with regard  to economic                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:04:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN,  upon the  request of  Co-Chair Herron,                                                               
reiterated information he stated earlier  in regard to the energy                                                               
issues in  Alaska related to  community development  and economic                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:05:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  inquired as to whether  Representative Austerman                                                               
believes  the ratio  between economic  development and  community                                                               
development within DCCED is 50:50.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN   said  that  he   hasn't  specifically                                                               
segregated that information  in a percentage basis.   With regard                                                               
to how much  economic development is occurring  within DCCED, the                                                               
information from  the department relates that  OED's 11 employees                                                               
are concentrating on  wealth building.  He noted  that the Alaska                                                               
Film  Office is  the only  entity bringing  new dollars  into the                                                               
State of  Alaska.  The  question, he remarked, is  regarding what                                                               
one determines to  be economic development.   Although the second                                                               
largest industry  in Alaska, for  jobs, is the  fishing industry,                                                               
the  regional  seafood  development  associations  (RSDAs)  don't                                                               
bring new money into the state  but rather try to use their money                                                               
to advertise  their product and  sell it for more.   Furthermore,                                                               
vessel  upgrades   don't  bring   more  money  into   the  state.                                                               
Therefore,  it's difficult  to  determine what  type of  economic                                                               
development  growth is  occurring within  DCCED.   Representative                                                               
Austerman  said that  the majority  of the  information regarding                                                               
economic development  in the state  is really  rural development,                                                               
community development  projects that  aren't bringing  new wealth                                                               
into the state.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:09:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  CATSI,   President,  Alaska  Partnership   for  Economic                                                               
Development   (APED);   Executive  Director,   Southwest   Alaska                                                               
Municipal Conference  (SWAMC), informed the committee  that SWAMC                                                               
is  one   of  four  federally  designated   economic  development                                                               
districts  in the  state.    He told  the  committee  that he  is                                                               
present  to   discuss  the  Alaska   Forward  Initiative.     The                                                               
aforementioned initiative is an  attempt to establish a statewide                                                               
economic development  strategy for Alaska.   Taking off  his APED                                                               
and SWAMC hats,  Mr. Catsi opined that Alaska  has been fortunate                                                               
in that economic development has  just happened in Alaska because                                                               
of  the state's  rich natural  resources.   Much of  the economic                                                               
development  of  the  state's   resources  has  happened  because                                                               
businesses  made the  effort.   He further  opined that  economic                                                               
development  happens in  Alaska rather  than the  state taking  a                                                               
proactive stance to make it happen.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:11:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CATSI explained  the 12  ARDORs in  Alaska joined  forces to                                                               
leverage the  ARDOR program  to be  more efficient  and effective                                                               
with the  multi-regional and statewide initiatives  and programs.                                                               
Since the 12 ARDORs work  in different regions and have different                                                               
emphasis, their efforts are often siloed.   There wasn't a lot of                                                               
discussion and effort  between the ARDORs, rather  they were just                                                               
charged  with making  the  state's  economic development  program                                                               
more effective.  One notion  to achieve the aforementioned was to                                                               
form  an  umbrella  organization,  APED,  outside  of  the  ARDOR                                                               
program itself.   This organization would work  closely on multi-                                                               
regional statewide  initiatives.   One of  the first  things APED                                                               
did was review  economic development in the state of  Alaska as a                                                               
whole.  He related  that APED felt that it was  best to first get                                                               
an  economic  strategy  going.   Therefore,  APED  reviewed  many                                                               
different  models of  economic development  strategies throughout                                                               
the  country.   The model  chosen  to follow  was the  Prosperity                                                               
Partnership  model that  was based  in  Puget Sound,  Washington.                                                               
That  model  was  based  on  economic  development  organizations                                                               
taking the  lead on the strategy,  but more so in  the management                                                               
of the  initiative while having  the private sector  put together                                                               
and implement  the strategy.   He related APED's belief  that the                                                               
private sector should  take the lead.  Past efforts  of state- or                                                               
government-run  economic   development  efforts   face  obstacles                                                               
because  the state  doesn't really  have a  good idea  as to  the                                                               
private sector's  needs for private sector  economic development.                                                               
Therefore,  the state  is in  more of  a support  role while  the                                                               
private sector takes the lead.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:14:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  said that Alaska  should have an  economic development                                                               
strategy for  the following  three reasons:   a  strategy clearly                                                               
outlines a set  of goals and objectives that are  being sought; a                                                               
strategy develops a  roadmap that helps one obtain  the goals and                                                               
objectives;  a  strategy  also  produces  a  set  of  performance                                                               
measures that  allow one to  measure the success in  reaching the                                                               
goals  and objectives.   Currently,  the aforementioned  isn't in                                                               
place at  a statewide level,  although they  are in place  at the                                                               
community  and regional  levels.   Mr.  Catsi  related that  APED                                                               
wanted to have a vision  regarding why the organization was doing                                                               
what it  was and going  where it was going.   There was  also the                                                               
desire to  have a  clear vision  and mission  for APED,  which is                                                               
stated on  slides 3 and  4 of  the document entitled  "The Alaska                                                               
Forward Challenge."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:16:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CATSI  related  that when  [the  consulting  team]  reviewed                                                               
various strategies from around the  country there was also review                                                               
of  the  opportunities to  fund  such  a  strategy.   The  Denali                                                               
Commission, through its  economic development advisory committee,                                                               
had a  grant opportunity  that arose  when this  [initiative] was                                                               
being developed.  The APED applied  for the grant and was awarded                                                               
$500,000  from   the  Denali  Commission  to   get  the  strategy                                                               
underway.   To have  any long-term meaningful  change in  the way                                                               
that economic development would happen  in the state, the experts                                                               
within  Alaska and  throughout the  country should  be consulted.                                                               
Therefore,  the  APED issued  a  national  request for  proposals                                                               
(RFP) for which  nine strong proposals were received.   Mr. Catsi                                                               
highlighted that the RFP recognized  that the way things are done                                                               
in Alaska is very different than  elsewhere, which is why the RFP                                                               
required a  partner in Alaska.   The contract was awarded  to IHS                                                               
Global  Insight,  the  Economic Competitiveness  Group,  and  the                                                               
McDowell Group from  Alaska.  He related that  IHS Global Insight                                                               
has  incredible  scope   around  the  world  in   terms  of  data                                                               
collection   and    analysis   capabilities.       The   Economic                                                               
Competitiveness  Group  (ECG)  from   San  Francisco  focuses  on                                                               
strategy  development  while the  McDowell  Group  will focus  on                                                               
"ground truthing" everything.   He noted that  IHS Global Insight                                                               
and  ECG have  worked on  other  projects together,  such as  the                                                               
Prosperity Partnership Project in Puget Sound.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:18:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  opined that it was  important for APED to  think about                                                               
what it was  trying to accomplish.  In the  past, many statewide,                                                               
regional,  and  local  initiatives   developed  a  plan  full  of                                                               
recommendations  without  any  emphasis on  the  recommendations.                                                               
Therefore, APED  focused on obtaining recommendations  as well as                                                               
the final product, the implementation  strategy.  The project was                                                               
broken into  two phases.   Phase I was the  information gathering                                                               
process  during which  Alaska's  current  economic situation  was                                                               
reviewed.    He highlighted  the  importance  of quantifying  and                                                               
qualifying the state's  economy and the capacity  of the economic                                                               
development organizations  in the  state.   He then  reviewed the                                                               
chart  on slide  8 entitled  "The Key  Alaska Forward  Challenge:                                                               
Alaska's   comparative   stagnation,"  which   illustrates   that                                                               
essentially the  state's gross product  has been  stagnated since                                                               
1990.   The chart on  slide 9 illustrates the  state's volatility                                                               
in Alaska's gross state product.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:21:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI characterized  slide 10 as disturbing  since it relates                                                               
that Alaska's real  per capita gross domestic  product has fallen                                                               
below that  of the U.S.   The graph  on slide 11  illustrates the                                                               
huge  decrease in  oil  capacity.   He then  turned  to slide  12                                                               
entitled "Employment --  a source of stability" that  has a graph                                                               
illustrating  consecutive  job growth  over  the  past 20  years,                                                               
which  many view  as indicating  that  the state  is doing  fine.                                                               
However,  reviewing  some  of the  information  in  prior  graphs                                                               
results in  a bit different  outlook because it relates  that the                                                               
state has been growing jobs but  not output/income.  In fact, the                                                               
state has actually been losing  income.  The aforementioned means                                                               
that the  state is growing jobs,  but they are lower  paying jobs                                                               
and lower  skilled jobs.   The  state is  losing the  higher paid                                                               
skilled  jobs.   If such  a  trend continues,  it can  be a  real                                                               
problem for  Alaska's future  standard of  living and  quality of                                                               
life.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:23:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI, referring  to slides 12-13 in the  packet, pointed out                                                               
that although oil  production has been declining,  there has been                                                               
an  increase  in  the  price  of oil.    The  aforementioned  has                                                               
resulted in the state being buffered  a bit from the true impacts                                                               
of the decline in oil.  The  volatility of the oil price makes it                                                               
difficult to determine what will  happen with regard to the price                                                               
of oil.   Therefore, it becomes difficult to  determine where the                                                               
state should focus its efforts in  this situation.  Part of Phase                                                               
I  is  to  conduct  a  cluster  analysis.    A  cluster  analysis                                                               
identifies  those industries  and  the health  of those  industry                                                               
sectors that  have export  potential, which  is money  that comes                                                               
into  the  state.    Therefore,   there's  a  difference  between                                                               
businesses  that bring  money into  the state  versus those  that                                                               
circulate funds that  are already in the state.   If the clusters                                                               
that bring money  into the state are built,  then businesses that                                                               
circulate  those  funds  will  grow  and  the  demand  for  those                                                               
businesses will increase.   Slides 15-16 specify  the 10 clusters                                                               
that were  found.   He reviewed  the chart  on slide  16 entitled                                                               
"Segmenting   the   Clusters,"   which  illustrates   where   the                                                               
industries are  on a statewide  scene.  The chart  highlights the                                                               
potential,   issues,  and   possible   opportunities  with   [the                                                               
clusters].  He  noted that a cluster analysis  was also performed                                                               
on a regional level.  Eight regions have been identified.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:26:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON  inquired   as  to   where  the   federal                                                               
government fits in [slide 16].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CATSI explained  that there  is a  cluster with  the federal                                                               
government, which is an entity  over which the state doesn't have                                                               
much control.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON   said  that  he  mentioned   the  federal                                                               
government because  the military  is one  of the  bigger clusters                                                               
and the military is tied to federal spending.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:28:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI,  in response  to Co-Chair  Herron, explained  that the                                                               
chart on  slide 16  is broken  down on the  relation to  the U.S.                                                               
economy.  He  related that lines on the right  have output growth                                                               
at a greater rate than the  U.S. average.  The clusters above the                                                               
horizontal line  have employment  concentrations higher  than the                                                               
U.S. average.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:29:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI returned to his  presentation and directed attention to                                                               
slide  17 entitled  "Fairbanks  Clusters."   He  pointed out  the                                                               
smaller  clusters that  were identified  as future  opportunities                                                               
for  Alaska.   However, he  also  pointed out  that the  clusters                                                               
cannot be developed unless Alaska  has the economic foundation in                                                               
place  to  support  those  clusters.     In  some  respects,  the                                                               
infrastructure  of a  skilled  work  force, technology  capacity,                                                               
access to capital, affordable energy,  education system that puts                                                               
out  qualified  students, a  quality  of  life, and  etcetera  is                                                               
what's necessary for companies to  form and grow.  Although there                                                               
is   a   link   between  community   development   and   economic                                                               
development, the  two are very  different processes.   The Alaska                                                               
Forward  Initiative  is  focusing  on  the  economic  development                                                               
aspect.     Within  economic   development,  it's   important  to                                                               
understand where Alaska fits in relation  to the rest of the U.S.                                                               
and the world.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:31:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER, referring  to  slide  18 entitled  "Seed                                                               
Clusters," asked  if the specialty  solvents cluster is  a value-                                                               
added from the petroleum industry.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI answered that he would  imagine so, but offered to find                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:32:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI,  continuing his  presentation, informed  the committee                                                               
that  APED is  collecting  data and  talking  to stakeholders  in                                                               
order to  understand the  various views  and nuances  of Alaska's                                                               
economic  development.   He further  informed the  committee that                                                               
the  qualitative data  is being  included  with the  quantitative                                                               
data.    The [stakeholder  interviews]  highlighted  the lack  of                                                               
statewide coordination and  leadership with economic development.                                                               
Therefore,  APED  has  decided  to  focus on  that  part  of  the                                                               
economic  development   strategy  by   laying  out   a  framework                                                               
regarding how to implement  the recommendations while identifying                                                               
leadership roles.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:33:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI,  referring to  slide 29  entitled "What  do you  do in                                                               
such   a  situation?"   specified  that   the  focus   is  on   a                                                               
private/public partnership.   This  initiative, he  opined, needs                                                               
to be led by the private  sector in collaboration with the public                                                               
sector.   As the project  moves into Phase  II, the data  and the                                                               
analysis  from Phase  I will  be  used to  create a  foundational                                                               
document from which an economic  development plan is built and an                                                               
implementation  strategy is  created.    The aforementioned  will                                                               
require industry  cluster groups  led by  the public  sector with                                                               
support from  the state government  and other  local governments.                                                               
Developing ways  in which those  two groups can work  together to                                                               
develop a strategy  will also be necessary.   He recalled earlier                                                               
testimony  that  only  two  people  advise  state  government  on                                                               
private sector  needs in the  state and  those two people  sit on                                                               
the AIDEA board.  With  regard to a regional economic development                                                               
level  and a  local economic  development level,  he pointed  out                                                               
that the  ARDORs are good at  having public/private partnerships.                                                               
He  mentioned that  APED has  93 members  of which  approximately                                                               
half are  local governments,  tribal governments,  and nonprofits                                                               
while the other half is from the private sector.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:35:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   related  that   often  when   there  is                                                               
discussion  of  private/public  partnerships  it's  really  about                                                               
asking for  money from the  public sector.  Therefore,  she asked                                                               
if APED  has proposed legislative changes,  more specifically she                                                               
inquired as to what APED wants from the public sector.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  responded that APED  is seeking a  working partnership                                                               
that ensures  that as  the private sector  begins to  develop the                                                               
strategy,  there is  support from  the public  sector.   Although                                                               
that support may  be financial, he specified the  [intent] for it                                                               
to be regulatory support to  make sure that there aren't hurdles.                                                               
The  public and  private sector  need to  work together  and move                                                               
forward  together.     In  further  response   to  Representative                                                               
Gardner,   Mr.  Catsi   related  that   APED  hasn't   worked  on                                                               
identifying whether the hurdles are statutory or regulatory.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:36:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  resumed his presentation.   He opined  that ultimately                                                               
the result  of the public  sector and the private  sector working                                                               
together is collaboration and trust.   If the state has a healthy                                                               
private  sector, it's  likely that  the  state will  have a  very                                                               
healthy  public sector.    "I think  we need  to  make sure  that                                                               
there's  skin in  the  game  from both  sides  so  that we  build                                                               
Alaska's  economy  for  the benefit  of  everybody,"  he  stated.                                                               
Therefore, economic  development really needs to  be about people                                                               
and  providing opportunities  for future  generations.   Economic                                                               
development  is  also  about  building  links  that  create  more                                                               
interaction between the local companies  and the larger companies                                                               
from outside.   Wealth retention is very important, he  said.  He                                                               
then  directed  attention to  slides  35-36,  which relate  those                                                               
participating  in  Collaborative   Strategy  Development  in  the                                                               
nation as well as globally.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:39:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  told the  committee that the  report will  also review                                                               
the  best  practices for  implementing  a  strategy.   Therefore,                                                               
those regions  and countries with similar  backgrounds and issues                                                               
will be reviewed.  The  Prosperity Partnership model uses a model                                                               
in which  the majority of  the leadership is the  private sector.                                                               
The  aforementioned  model  took  five clusters  at  a  time  and                                                               
created  work groups  and  an implementation  strategy.   As  the                                                               
cluster groups meet  the goals and objectives that  were set out,                                                               
they move  on to  the next cluster.   The  Prosperity Partnership                                                               
model  created a  strategy for  working through  the 10  clusters                                                               
such that the most important clusters were worked on first.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:40:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  noted that APED's  Phase I  report is due  out January                                                               
31,  2010.   Although it's  a complex  report with  an aggressive                                                               
timeline, the  consultants are  up to  the task.   Thus  far, the                                                               
team has been  very positive.  He mentioned  that APED's planning                                                               
team consisted of  five ARDOR members and  five non-ARDOR members                                                               
so  as  to  ensure  the  project  remains  a  statewide  economic                                                               
development  project  that   involves  economic  developers  from                                                               
around the state.  In fact,  every penny of the $500,000 received                                                               
from the Denali Commission is  being put into this initiative and                                                               
none is going  to the ARDORs, which  are putting in a  lot of in-                                                               
kind time on this project.   In closing, he highlighted slide 43,                                                               
which identifies  the regions of  the state, and slide  44, which                                                               
specifies  the work  plan APED  has developed  to accomplish  the                                                               
Alaska Forward Initiative.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:41:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked if Mr.  Catsi would characterize this                                                               
effort as a private sector effort.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  clarified that he  would characterize it as  a private                                                               
sector led  effort.  Some of  the ARDORs are public  entities and                                                               
some are  private nonprofits.   The entity, APED,  that's leading                                                               
this effort is a private nonprofit 501(c)(3).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:42:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON asked  if  the thesis  being developed  in                                                               
Phase   I  supports   what  Representative   Austerman  mentioned                                                               
regarding having more  capacity at the state  government level in                                                               
order to foster more economic development.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  reminded the  committee that Phase  I is  the analysis                                                               
stage  whereas Phase  II  reviews the  capacity  of the  economic                                                               
development organizations  throughout the  state.  The  belief is                                                               
that  by the  private  and public  sectors  working together  the                                                               
needs of the  private sector will be reviewed  while the concerns                                                               
on the  public sector side  will be  developed in order  that the                                                               
capacity for economic development is built.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:43:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   AUSTERMAN  opined   that  the   [Alaska  Forward                                                               
Initiative]   exists    because   there   is    no   legislative,                                                               
administrative, or governmental effort to do the same thing.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:44:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON characterized the  [Alaska Forward Initiative] as                                                               
a performance audit.  "We're going  to find out if the state, the                                                               
legislature,  the  administration,  the   people  that  run  this                                                               
department ...  have the skill  set to make sure  their employers                                                               
are doing a better job ...  for their constituents in Alaska," he                                                               
surmised.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATSI  agreed that is part  of it, but characterized  it as a                                                               
smaller  part of  the larger  economic development  puzzle.   The                                                               
consultants  were  asked to  perform  an  analysis regarding  the                                                               
state's capacity  for economic  development at  all levels.   The                                                               
effort, he  emphasized, will be  at the statewide,  regional, and                                                               
local  levels.   Without the  buy-in  from both  the private  and                                                               
public  sectors, the  process won't  work,  he said.   Mr.  Catsi                                                               
echoed earlier  testimony that it's  best for the  private sector                                                               
to  lead this  effort  because it  knows best  what  it needs  to                                                               
expand business.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:46:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  TORGERSON,  Executive  Director, Kenai  Peninsula  Economic                                                               
Development District, Inc.,  thanked Representative Austerman for                                                               
bringing  this  issue  forward  and  opined  that  [developing  a                                                               
statewide  economic development  plan] is  for the  betterment of                                                               
the state.   Although APED took  the initiative to apply  for the                                                               
grant from  the Denali  Commission to  begin the  strategic plan,                                                               
it's only  Phase I and  there will be opportunities  during Phase                                                               
II  for  others to  provide  funding.    He then  mentioned  that                                                               
although [APED]  will likely request a  legislative appropriation                                                               
for Phase  II, it has  begun a private sector  funding initiative                                                               
from which  it hopes to  raise a  substantial amount of  money to                                                               
help fund Phase II.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:47:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TORGERSON  then  informed   the  committee  that  the  Kenai                                                               
Peninsula Economic  Development District, Inc., is  an ARDOR, the                                                               
first that was formed in  1988.  Furthermore, the Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Economic  Development  District,  Inc.,   is  an  EDA  recognized                                                               
economic development district that  operates a business incubator                                                               
and manages  two revolving  loan funds.   Mr.  Torgerson directed                                                               
attention to page 7 of  Representative Austerman's briefing paper                                                               
entitled "Economic  Development in State Government."   The seven                                                               
possible  areas of  discussion  for the  legislature  are a  good                                                               
starting   point.     In  fact,   the   first  discussion   area,                                                               
restructuring   economic  development   functions  within   state                                                               
government, is much of what has  been discussed today.  He opined                                                               
that  the department  shouldn't return  to its  existence as  the                                                               
Department  of  Community  & Regional  Affairs,  but  rather  the                                                               
[economic development]  functions of government should  be housed                                                               
in one  entity, under  AIDEA.   The aforementioned  would provide                                                               
the  people  on  the  ground   with  the  funding  sources.    He                                                               
acknowledged that [the economic  development function] within the                                                               
state  government  could  be  located   within  the  Division  of                                                               
Investments,  the Department  of  Economic  Development, or  with                                                               
tourism under one leadership.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:49:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORGERSON moved on to  the second possible area of discussion                                                               
for  the  legislature,  consideration   of  creation  of  a  non-                                                               
governmental  policy group.   He  related his  understanding that                                                               
economic development  from the perspective of  the private sector                                                               
is controlled  more by  the ARDORs and  local government  than at                                                               
the  state  level  where  there   are  only  two  private  sector                                                               
individuals  involved  in  the  decision-making  process.    This                                                               
[initiative]    provides   an    opportunity   to    change   the                                                               
aforementioned.  He acknowledged that  in the past there has been                                                               
fear  that  the  governor  would lose  control  if  [an  economic                                                               
development  organization]  isn't   dominated  by  commissioners.                                                               
However, that  doesn't seem to  be of concern with  the Permanent                                                               
Fund Corporation.  Therefore, he  opined that the first two areas                                                               
of discussion  for the legislature  could be combined.   He moved                                                               
on to the third possible  area of discussion for the legislature:                                                               
establish or reestablish incentive  programs.  Because Alaska has                                                               
a  limited  tax structure,  save  for  the [oil  industry],  it's                                                               
difficult to provide incentive programs  other than cash, grants,                                                               
and  corporate   tax  credits.     On  the  local   level,  local                                                               
governments have  the ability  to provide  50 percent  tax relief                                                               
for 5 years or further on a  new project in the area that doesn't                                                               
compete  with  [other companies].    However,  one receives  more                                                               
time, 10 years, for tax  relief for deteriorated property than if                                                               
one rebuilds.  He characterized the aforementioned as awkward.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:51:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORGERSON  acknowledged that the state's  loan programs could                                                               
be considered an  incentive.  However, in order  to be considered                                                               
for one of these loan programs one  must be turned down by one to                                                               
two banks, depending upon the  loan program.  In these situations                                                               
the risk shifts from the private  sector banks to government.  He                                                               
said he  understood that the  state doesn't want public  money to                                                               
compete   with  private   sector  money.     Still,   it  remains                                                               
problematic when the  state tries to take a  feasibility study or                                                               
business plan that's been turned down  by a few banks and massage                                                               
it in  order to  make it  look good  enough to  receive approval.                                                               
Mr.  Torgerson  then  turned  to  the  fourth  possible  area  of                                                               
discussion  for the  legislature, budgeting  for ARDOR  programs.                                                               
From his own  perspective, he said he didn't want  any more money                                                               
for strategic  planning or things  that the ARDORs do.   However,                                                               
there seems to  be a lack of funding for  the feasibility studies                                                               
or business plans.   He emphasized that Alaskans  aren't short on                                                               
ideas, but  rather they are short  on methods and funds  to bring                                                               
the ideas and proposals forward in a project.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:54:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORGERSON, in closing, said  that perhaps when the Department                                                               
of  Community  &  Regional  Affairs  was  incorporated  into  the                                                               
Department  of  Economic  Development, the  economic  development                                                               
aspect slipped  away a  bit, he noted.   In  general, legislators                                                               
tend  to  reward the  programs  that  are  successful.   He  then                                                               
related  his  hope  that the  committee  would  consider  holding                                                               
another hearing after the Phase I  study is finished and there is                                                               
a  clearer view  of where  the  state may  be able  to focus  its                                                               
efforts.   Perhaps, some priority business  clusters will surface                                                               
and result in some real successes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:56:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON mentioned  that  U.S.  Senator Lisa  Murkowski's                                                               
staff is in attendance.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:56:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON,   in  response  to   Representative  Austerman,                                                               
announced that the committee intends  on having this group make a                                                               
presentation once its report is available.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:57:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:57 a.m. to 12:02 p.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:02:50 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON called the meeting back to order.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:03:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  BELL, Special  Staff Assistant,  Office  of the  Governor,                                                               
began  by  noting that  she  works  closely  with DCCED  and  the                                                               
Department of  Revenue.  Ms.  Bell related that  Governor Parnell                                                               
is  committed to  economic  development.   Furthermore,  Governor                                                               
Parnell  believes it's  appropriate for  government to  create an                                                               
environment  that's conducive  to private  sector investment  and                                                               
sustainability   through   enhancing  transportation,   workforce                                                               
development, energy resource  development, other natural resource                                                               
development,  and  removing  the barriers  that  inhibit  private                                                               
sector  investment  and  opportunities.     The  comments  today,                                                               
although  from  various  perspectives and  initiatives,  seem  to                                                               
relate  the same  idea.   Ms. Bell  then turned  to the  economic                                                               
planning effort  referred to  as LEGACY.   LEGACY had  a steering                                                               
committee,  Alaska Diversified  Economic  Planning Team  (ADEPT),                                                               
which included a number of  commissioners, AIDEA, the university,                                                               
and the Office  of the Governor.  This LEGACY  project started in                                                               
February 2009  under the  Palin Administration  and by  July 2009                                                               
there was  a public launch  in which  13 work groups  were pulled                                                               
together.    The  13  work   groups  included  industry  sectors,                                                               
economic sectors,  state and federal  government, and  many other                                                               
sectors.    The groups  were  provided  background and  asked  to                                                               
respond to  questions that  have been  developed by  the steering                                                               
committee  and staff  as well  as identify  barriers to  economic                                                               
development at  the state  and federal levels.   The  groups were                                                               
also  asked  to  suggest  changes   that  would  help  facilitate                                                               
economic  development.   Concurrently,  there  were  a number  of                                                               
meetings  with community  and business  leaders  that made  folks                                                               
aware of  the LEGACY effort.   There was also review  of the best                                                               
practices of  other states and  how they  could be adapted  to be                                                               
utilized in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:06:37 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL  noted that  this initiative  was developed  by Governor                                                               
Palin,  but   it  wasn't  funded.     Although  there   was  some                                                               
administrative and  staff support, there  was no budget  for this                                                               
initiative.  Therefore,  Ms. Bell commended the  staff who worked                                                               
on the  LEGACY Project.   In late  September, early  October 2009                                                               
Governor Parnell  began to articulate  his goals with  the LEGACY                                                               
Project.  Within the work  groups and state government, there was                                                               
some  confusion  regarding  the  longevity  of  the  process  and                                                               
whether the focus  would be on issues within  state government or                                                               
statewide.   Many of  the groups  took the  assignment seriously,                                                               
met frequently, and produced an  interim document.  However, some                                                               
groups  didn't meet  after the  July launch.   More  importantly,                                                               
there was no  oil and gas work group.   Governor Parnell has said                                                               
he would like to create an oil  and gas work group and review the                                                               
makeup of the existing work  groups and consider making them more                                                               
robust.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:08:21 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL then highlighted the  concern about the expectation of a                                                               
mid-December delivery date for an  economic development plan.  In                                                               
mid-October, Governor Parnell  told ADEPT that he  wanted to take                                                               
the  focus  off  the  mid-December  deadline,  but  preserve  and                                                               
elevate the  input from  the private sector.   After  hearing the                                                               
governor's   preferences,  a   couple  of   options  for   a  new                                                               
administrative   order  were   drafted.     Ms.  Bell   said  she                                                               
anticipated  a  new  administrative  order will  be  released  to                                                               
clarify  the  change  in LEGACY  under  the  new  administration.                                                               
Regarding  the comments  about  focusing  on implementation,  Ms.                                                               
Bell  related  that Governor  Parnell  would  like to  hear  what                                                               
barriers and ideas people have  and streamline the process rather                                                               
than waiting for a plan delivery.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:10:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL commended those who worked  on LEGACY.  Those who worked                                                               
on  LEGACY were  asked to  review  their notes  and interim  work                                                               
group  reports  and  compile   the  recommendations,  ideas,  and                                                               
barriers  that were  identified  during the  initial effort  with                                                               
LEGACY.   The aforementioned  would ensure that  the work  is not                                                               
lost.   She noted  that both  the APED  and LEGACY  programs were                                                               
aware of  each other  and intended  to work  together.   In fact,                                                               
there  were some  similarities between  the process  of APED  and                                                               
LEGACY.    However,  as  they move  forward  and  information  is                                                               
shared, the discussion of economic  development is well poised to                                                               
continue.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:12:14 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON surmised that per  Administrative Order 249 there                                                               
is yet another  subcabinet group made up  mostly of commissioners                                                               
or  executive  directors.    He  asked if  [the  members  of  the                                                               
subcabinet group] are active in these planning groups.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BELL related  that ADEPT  met frequently  after the  initial                                                               
administrative  order  was  established;  it met  in  sort  of  a                                                               
steering committee  capacity.  The  concept was that  there would                                                               
be  the  ability  to  share   information  with  those  who  were                                                               
involved.   At this point,  it's likely  that ADEPT will  have an                                                               
opportunity  to   review  the   work  products  that   have  been                                                               
developed.  The  work group communication with  the governor will                                                               
likely  move  forward, she  said.    Governor Parnell  is  moving                                                               
forward in  a much more  streamlined fashion than what  the prior                                                               
administration envisioned.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:14:13 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  inquired as  to why Ms.  Bell was  interested in                                                               
this job with the governor's office.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL informed  the committee that she  previously worked with                                                               
the McDowell  Group when  it worked  on the  proposal.   Ms. Bell                                                               
said,  "It seems  like  a  really great  time  when  we've got  a                                                               
governor  that   is  committed  to  economic   development  ...."                                                               
Furthermore,  she  characterized  it   as  a  great  opportunity,                                                               
although it's a  necessity.  She said she couldn't  pass up being                                                               
involved with this economic development.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:15:57 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ asked  if the governor intends for  this effort to                                                               
result in recommendations for legislation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL opined that there  will be opportunities for legislative                                                               
solutions.  However,  some of the actions will be  ones which can                                                               
be  done internally.   She  noted that  APED made  the suggestion                                                               
regarding review  of the  clusters it  identified to  create more                                                               
alignment as the  process moves forward.   The aforementioned may                                                               
result in the work group composition shifting slightly.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:17:45 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MUNOZ  suggested  that   perhaps  the  committee  could                                                               
request Ms. Bell  report to the committee  regarding the progress                                                               
of the group in order to coordinate efforts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BELL agreed to do so.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:18:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  praised Representative  Austerman and  his staff                                                               
for their efforts.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:19:06 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TED  LEONARD, Executive  Director, Alaska  Industrial Development                                                               
and Export Authority (AIDEA),  Department of Commerce, Community,                                                               
&  Economic Development,  reminded the  committee that  AIDEA has                                                               
reviewed  best practices  in  the state.    Through that  review,                                                               
AIDEA  has  found  that  most  states  with  successful  economic                                                               
development  organizations  also  have  a  robust  and  proactive                                                               
development finance authority  [in the state].   Mr. Leonard then                                                               
informed  the   committee  that   AIDEA  was  organized   by  the                                                               
legislature in  the late 1960s  with the following purpose:   "To                                                               
promote, develop and advance the  general prosperity and economic                                                               
welfare of the people of Alaska."   Since its inception AIDEA has                                                               
grown  into  a $1  million  development  authority with  over  60                                                               
percent of AIDEA's  assets in the loan  participation program and                                                               
economic   development   infrastructure   project.      He   then                                                               
highlighted the major programs AIDEA  uses to fulfill its purpose                                                               
as  follows:    loan  participation, conduit  revenue  bond,  and                                                               
development finance.   There are  three other small  programs, of                                                               
which the Small  Business Economic Development Loan  Fund and the                                                               
Rural Development  Initiative Fund  are run through  the Division                                                               
of Investments.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:21:59 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD  told  the  committee   that  AIDEA's  programs  are                                                               
uniquely   structured   under  the   private/public   partnership                                                               
concept.  For example, AIDEA's  Loan Participation program allows                                                               
AIDEA to  participate in loans  with banks  for up to  90 percent                                                               
[of the loan  amount] for up to $20 million.   The partnership is                                                               
one in  which the banks will  have a customer with  a development                                                               
project,  both  AIDEA and  the  bank  will do  the  underwriting.                                                               
Therefore,  AIDEA  shares the  risk  of  the  loan and  the  bank                                                               
services  the loan.    He  pointed out  that  AIDEA provides  the                                                               
ability of  the banks' customers  to obtain  long-term financing.                                                               
He then turned to the  Conduit Revenue Bond program, which allows                                                               
businesses and nonprofits  access to the tax  exempt bond market.                                                               
Over the  program's life  AIDEA has issued  over $1.2  billion in                                                               
conduit  revenue bonds.    In fact,  through  this program  AIDEA                                                               
recently  issued $91  million  to the  Fairbanks  Hospital.   The                                                               
aforementioned   funds   allowed   the  Fairbanks   Hospital   to                                                               
restructure  its variable  bond  debt and  also  obtain funds  to                                                               
build a  cardiac wing, which is  estimated to bring in  40-50 new                                                               
jobs  into  the Fairbanks  area.    The other  major  development                                                               
program,  Development  Finance,  provides the  ability  to  raise                                                               
capital, usually through the bond  market, and then invest in and                                                               
own infrastructure  development projects.  Currently,  AIDEA owns                                                               
six  projects, which  are listed  in AIDEA's  annual report.   He                                                               
highlighted the  following two Development Finance  projects that                                                               
have been  very successful.   First, the  Red Dog Mine  Road Port                                                               
facilities for  which AIDEA  owns the  road and  port facilities,                                                               
although  Tech-Cominco  runs  the aforementioned  facilities  and                                                               
pays AIDEA  for the use  of those  facilities.  Last  year, Tech-                                                               
Cominco paid NANA Corporation $212  million in royalties and paid                                                               
NANA joint  venture companies over  $110 million in  service fees                                                               
for jobs for  the mining company.  Furthermore, the  Red Dog Mine                                                               
Road Port  project employed over  550 people of which  60 percent                                                               
were from  the Northwest Arctic  Borough.  Second,  the Ketchikan                                                               
Shipyard is  owned by AIDEA  in partnership with  Alaska Shipyard                                                               
and Dry Dock Corporation, which  recently launched the first ship                                                               
from that facility.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:25:47 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD  pointed out  that AIDEA's  dividend program  is also                                                               
important to  AIDEA.  He  recalled that the dividend  program was                                                               
passed  in  1997  and  every year  thereafter  AIDEA  declared  a                                                               
dividend in the amount of 20 percent  up to 50 percent of the net                                                               
asset increase  in AIDEA's base.   Over the period that  this has                                                               
been  in place,  AIDEA has  paid the  State of  Alaska over  $251                                                               
million  in dividends.   He  characterized the  aforementioned as                                                               
the  state's return  on its  investment in  economic development.                                                               
He  reminded  the  committee  that   AIDEA  is  performing  these                                                               
functions  for its  stakeholders, Alaskans,  and therefore  great                                                               
care  is taken  to ensure  that the  state's resources  are being                                                               
used in the best manner possible.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:27:06 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD turned to the  slide entitled "Other Activities."  He                                                               
highlighted that AIDEA  provides financing for the  ARDORs.  This                                                               
year AIDEA is  looking at providing over $700,000  to that group.                                                               
He noted that AIDEA has  spoken with the administration regarding                                                               
how  that funding  could or  should be  increased.   Furthermore,                                                               
AIDEA is developing  its relationship with the  ARDORs because it                                                               
believes it's  important to do  so in  order to be  proactive and                                                               
understand what  regional economic  development is  occurring and                                                               
communicate  regarding how  AIDEA can  help with  those projects.                                                               
Mr. Leonard then highlighted that  AIDEA also partners with other                                                               
agencies to  provide technical  assistance to  Alaska businesses.                                                               
He  related  that  AIDEA  agrees  with  Representative  Austerman                                                               
regarding the  need to provide  tools to businesses  and economic                                                               
development organizations  as well as provide  access to capital.                                                               
The AIDEA  recently completed a  partnership with  the university                                                               
in  which AIDEA  sponsored one  of the  classes needed  to obtain                                                               
certification.   Another activity in which  AIDEA participates is                                                               
its  partnership with  the  Alaska Energy  Authority  (AEA).   By                                                               
statute,  AIDEA provides  employees for  AEA and  shares overhead                                                               
expenses for them, which has  brought down the overhead costs for                                                               
AIDEA.   He mentioned that AIDEA  is determining how it  can work                                                               
through  its  financing  programs  to  help  finance  the  energy                                                               
programs identified through AEA's energy plan.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:29:07 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD  related that over  the past  year AIDEA has  been in                                                               
the  process  of determining  how  it  can  be a  more  proactive                                                               
promoter of  economic development  while increasing the  tools in                                                               
AIDEA's  tool box.   As  the process  started, it  became obvious                                                               
that  AIDEA needed  to revise  its  mission statement.   The  new                                                               
mission statement of  AIDEA is as follows:   "To promote, develop                                                               
and  advance economic  growth and  diversification  in Alaska  by                                                               
providing various means  of financing and investment."   If AIDEA                                                               
desires to  expand its role  and be more proactive,  the emphasis                                                               
has   to  be   on  promoting   economic  development,   not  just                                                               
concentrating on the existing tools.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:30:44 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD explained that AIDEA  performed an environmental scan                                                               
and   spot  analysis   of  Alaska's   economy  as   well  as   an                                                               
environmental  analysis regarding  how AIDEA  is a  part of  that                                                               
process.  Several  surveys of all the  stakeholders were reviewed                                                               
while  following  the  best   practices  of  development  finance                                                               
agencies.  As an aside, he  mentioned that AIDEA is very involved                                                               
with the  Council of  Development Finance  Authority.   The major                                                               
theme that  arose from the  stakeholder survey was  that although                                                               
AIDEA is  a respected partner  in economic development,  it needs                                                               
to  be more  proactive and  expand its  role in  how it  promotes                                                               
economic development.  Through  the aforementioned process, AIDEA                                                               
reviewed where  it is and where  it is going and  developed a new                                                               
strategic vision.  The new strategic  vision is "to become a more                                                               
proactive  partner  in  statewide   economic  development  and  a                                                               
stronger resource for the state."   The AIDEA determined that the                                                               
best way  to accomplish the  aforementioned was to embark  on the                                                               
following four initiatives.   The first initiative  is to enhance                                                               
the efficiency and  effectiveness of AIDEA's programs.   As AIDEA                                                               
reviewed  its  best practices,  it  concluded  that AIDEA  should                                                               
build its expertise regarding  how economic development financing                                                               
should be done in the  state.  Furthermore, AIDEA determined that                                                               
it should also coordinate and  improve the intake and handling of                                                               
identified economic  opportunities.   Therefore, AIDEA  will have                                                               
to be  much more effective and  rapid in its in-take  process and                                                               
continuing process.   Mr. Leonard related that  the process takes                                                               
one to three  years.  In fact,  the large project of  the Red Dog                                                               
took about a decade to complete.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD  acknowledged that the theme  throughout this hearing                                                               
has been in regard to  how AIDEA coordinates with other agencies,                                                               
the  private  sector,  or multi-source  financing  opportunities.                                                               
The  prices of  the  larger infrastructure  projects  are in  the                                                               
billions  of dollars.   Therefore,  AIDEA considers  these to  be                                                               
multi-layered  funding  such  that  investment may  come  from  a                                                               
Native organization, federal agencies/sources, and AIDEA.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:34:49 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD,  in regard  to  Co-Chair  Munoz's earlier  question                                                               
regarding AIDEA's  bonding capacity, informed the  committee that                                                               
AIDEA has  the ability to  bond about  $400 million in  a rolling                                                               
year.   He noted that  last year  AIDEA requested an  increase in                                                               
bonding capacity up  to $600 million and the ability  to take out                                                               
refinancing bonds.  The aforementioned  legislation was passed by                                                               
the House last year and is now in the Senate Finance Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:35:42 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD then  returned to the ways in which  AIDEA can become                                                               
more efficient and  effective.  He related the need  for AIDEA to                                                               
establish  better  metrics  and performance  measures  to  assure                                                               
successful  economic development  financing.   The aforementioned                                                               
also helps  ensure that AIDEA  is being  effective in the  use of                                                               
its  limited  resources.   He  noted  that  as  a member  of  the                                                               
Government  Finance  Officers  Association  Distinguished  Budget                                                               
Program, he  has learned that  if something is worth  doing, it's                                                               
worth measuring.   Another  initiative is  to diversify  and grow                                                               
assets  to support  economic  development.   If  the  goal is  to                                                               
expand AIDEA's  existing programs  and development  of financing,                                                               
then  AIDEA needs  to better  utilize its  assets to  ensure that                                                               
AIDEA's asset  allocation is  meeting the needs  of the  state as                                                               
well as  Alaska's businesses.  Again,  one of the main  themes is                                                               
AIDEA's  ability   to  help  businesses  and   industries  access                                                               
affordable long-term capital, which  AIDEA finds with its ability                                                               
to  go to  the bond  market for  that capital.   He  related that                                                               
AIDEA's  strategy  is  to partition  the  more  inherently  risky                                                               
programs, such  as start-up capital,  so that the bond  market or                                                               
rating  agencies  don't  drop  AIDEA's   bond  rating,  which  is                                                               
currently an AA- rating.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:38:12 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD  moved on  to  the  third  initiative, which  is  to                                                               
improve existing programs and add  new financial tools.  The goal                                                               
is  to   make  AIDEA's  existing   programs  more   robust  while                                                               
fulfilling the  needs of businesses  in development  projects and                                                               
commercial development.   He reminded the  committee that AIDEA's                                                               
expertise  is in  the commercial  and  project development  side.                                                               
Furthermore,  AIDEA is  trying to  increase the  capacity in  its                                                               
analysis in  order to be  a better  tool for the  legislature and                                                               
the  governor  in  terms  of  reporting  on  the  feasibility  of                                                               
projects.   Having  the  ability  to do  quick  analysis is  very                                                               
important to  AIDEA, he  stated.   He then  pointed out  that the                                                               
financial  upheaval in  the nation  impacted  AIDEA's ability  to                                                               
provide loans  to businesses such  that its rates  increased from                                                               
the 6.5  percent range up to  the 10 percent range  and then back                                                               
down to  the 6.5 percent range  in less than a  year.  Currently,                                                               
AIDEA  is working  with the  administration  regarding how  AIDEA                                                               
could have a more flexible statute  in terms of setting the rates                                                               
in  order  to ensure  that  AIDEA  provides long-term  affordable                                                               
credit to  businesses.   He related that  AIDEA is  reviewing new                                                               
programs that,  hopefully, incentivize job growth  and investment                                                               
in  rural areas.    The AIDEA  is working  with  the Division  of                                                               
Investments  on the  aforementioned because  some programs  are a                                                               
better  fit for  AIDEA  while  those programs  of  a direct  loan                                                               
nature are a better fit for the Division of Investments.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:41:00 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD  turned  the  committee's   attention  to  the  last                                                               
initiative,  which  is  expanding   the  deployment  of  economic                                                               
development  financing.     The  goal  is   to  increase  project                                                               
financing  to one  to three  projects a  year totaling  over $200                                                               
million  over  the  next  three  years.    He  characterized  the                                                               
aforementioned as  an aggressive goal.   At the same  time, AIDEA                                                               
is leveraging  existing projects, such as  the Ketchikan Shipyard                                                               
expansion.   The  Ketchikan Shipyard  expansion  has amounted  to                                                               
over $77 million over the last two  years.  A new ship lifter was                                                               
completed  and  will  allow the  company  working  the  Ketchikan                                                               
Shipyard facility to  bring in more ships,  perform more repairs,                                                               
and bring more economic development  into the Ketchikan area.  He                                                               
told the committee that AIDEA  has also increased the capacity of                                                               
the Skagway  Ore terminal by  40 percent  over the last  year and                                                               
continues to work  with the Skagway community to  expand the port                                                               
facilities.    Mr. Leonard  related  his  agreement with  earlier                                                               
statements  that AIDEA  needs to  better  work with  each of  the                                                               
organizations  in the  state as  well as  the public  and private                                                               
sectors.   Therefore, AIDEA is developing  an aggressive outreach                                                               
program  and  adding  a  new  position,  a  business  development                                                               
officer,  to deal  with  that.   He noted  that  AIDEA will  have                                                               
another position,  economic development  officer, who will  be in                                                               
charge of taking projects through  the in-take system and AIDEA's                                                               
system.   He  likened the  aforementioned to  a "deal  maker" and                                                               
noted that the business development  officer will coordinate with                                                               
the economic development officer in  order to ensure that all the                                                               
appropriate parties are brought together.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:43:48 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD  noted  that  AIDEA  agrees  with  the  comments  of                                                               
Representative   Austerman,  Ms.   Harrington,   and  Mr.   Catsi                                                               
regarding increasing private sector input.   In fact, AIDEA is in                                                               
the  process  of  implementing two  new  committees,  a  business                                                               
advisory committee, and a  business technical advisory committee,                                                               
to  bring in  private sector  input  to ensure  that the  private                                                               
sector's needs  are met and  AIDEA's tools are effective  for the                                                               
private sector.  In conclusion,  Mr. Leonard reiterated that over                                                               
the  past year  AIDEA  has  been going  through  this process  of                                                               
making AIDEA into a more  proactive partner in promoting economic                                                               
development  and  a more  valuable  tool  for the  governor,  the                                                               
legislature, and the private sector.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:45:10 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  inquired which  of AIDEA's  six programs  is the                                                               
most challenging.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD responded  that the  loan  participation program  is                                                               
very  successful.   On  the economic  development  side, most  of                                                               
AIDEA's  projects  are very  successful  and  being leveraged  to                                                               
provide  jobs.   The challenge,  as Mr.  Leonard observed,  is to                                                               
invest  more  into the  aforementioned  type  of projects.    The                                                               
challenge, he  stated, is  bringing more  of those  projects into                                                               
the funnel because  AIDEA often looks at 8-10 projects  to find 1                                                               
that  will  be economically  feasible  and  provide the  economic                                                               
development for  the state.   Therefore,  the investment  side of                                                               
AIDEA is challenging.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:47:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON commented that  the House Special Committee                                                               
on Energy  has heard  a lot  of support  throughout the  state to                                                               
have an independent entity that  addresses energy, whether it's a                                                               
division or department.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD remarked that such  a structural change would have to                                                               
be addressed  by the legislature  and the governor.   However, he                                                               
pointed  out that  [having an  independent entity  that addresses                                                               
energy] is the direction [DCCED]  is moving.  Currently, there is                                                               
an  executive director  for  AEA and  an  executive director  for                                                               
AIDEA and  there are  resources that  are specifically  linked to                                                               
the  goal  of   each  entity.    He  noted   his  agreement  with                                                               
Representative Edgmon  that AEA and AIDEA  are complimentary, but                                                               
not the same.  He added  that the two authorities share resources                                                               
for overhead, such as for accounting and payroll.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:49:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON surmised  that Representative Austerman's project                                                               
will be easy  to accomplish.  He then requested  that Mr. Leonard                                                               
work with  Representative Austerman and this  committee regarding                                                               
the  possible areas  of discussion  for the  legislature so  that                                                               
they can be discussed early in the session.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD related  that [AIDEA] is almost ready  to present its                                                               
strategic  plan  to  the  board.     Once  that  presentation  is                                                               
available, it  will be  submitted to the  committee.   He related                                                               
that AIDEA looks forward to  working with the legislature and the                                                               
governor to move improvements forward.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:51:04 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
EMIL NOTTI,  Commissioner, Department  of Commerce,  Community, &                                                               
Economic Development, acknowledged that  there's a lot of concern                                                               
and activity and  effort in terms of where the  state wants to go                                                               
with   economic  development.     In   the  way   of  background,                                                               
Commissioner  Notti informed  the  committee that  in 1940  there                                                               
were 72,000 people  in Alaska, which has grown  to 700,000 today.                                                               
He  then opined  that for  growth  there are  the following  four                                                               
essential   elements:       communication,   trained   workforce,                                                               
reasonable energy, and transportation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:53:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  posed the question  of how Alaska  can retain                                                               
its wealth.   There is the need to close  the holes through which                                                               
money is leaving Alaska.   The aforementioned can be accomplished                                                               
through workforce  development because if  the state had  a local                                                               
workforce, more money  would stay in and circulate  in the state.                                                               
Therefore, one of  the goals in economic  development, he opined,                                                               
is to  achieve full employment.   Taking  it one step  forward, a                                                               
trained  workforce  is necessary  and  much  more desirable  than                                                               
welfare.   The state  is spending  about $500  million a  year in                                                               
welfare, mostly in rural Alaska.   He characterized welfare as an                                                               
anchor on the state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:55:45 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  identified another goal as  having reasonable                                                               
energy costs.   Many are delving into how the  cost of energy can                                                               
be  reduced.    The  aforementioned   is  important  because  for                                                               
projects  such   as  Donlin  Creek  one   of  the  considerations                                                               
regarding whether or  not to develop is the cost  of energy.  The                                                               
Donlin Creek project also has  a problem with transportation.  In                                                               
order for  Alaska to be  competitive in the world  market, Alaska                                                               
must  bring  its  transportation  costs down.    He  related  his                                                               
understanding  that  the  individual airlines  in  Anchorage  are                                                               
importing  fuel to  be able  to  handle the  holiday rush,  which                                                               
causes Alaska's  transportation industry to be  less competitive.                                                               
Therefore, Alaska must review  other economic development models,                                                               
such   as  that   of  California   that  had   timber,  minerals,                                                               
agriculture,    fish,    industry,    transportation,    tourism,                                                               
entertainment  and  yet  it  is  bankrupt.   "If  we  do  have  a                                                               
destination for  economic development,  it ought to  be improving                                                               
our quality of life for everyone," he remarked.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:58:40 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  inquired as  to the  existing ratio  of economic                                                               
development to  community development.   He  also inquired  as to                                                               
what ratio is desirable.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI informed  the committee  that DCCED's  budget                                                               
totals  about  $195 million,  most  of  which is  self-sustaining                                                               
through licensing  and other fees  that are charged.   He further                                                               
informed the  committee that  about $35  million is  from general                                                               
funds, from  which the largest  part goes toward  maintaining the                                                               
Division of Banking & Securities,  the Division of Insurance, and                                                               
the various  other divisions.   Commissioner Notti stated  that a                                                               
very  small  part  of  DCCED's  budget  is  devoted  to  economic                                                               
development.  In fact, the  Office of Economic Development didn't                                                               
really exist  until "we were trying  to find places for  work for                                                               
people."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:00:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  asked if AIDEA  is becoming the  nexus for                                                               
economic development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  responded that  AIDEA was  never meant  to be                                                               
that,  but as  a  practical  matter AIDEA  had  the  budget.   By                                                               
default, the  legacy in DCCED  is falling  behind due to  lack of                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:02:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BLACK,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  &  Economic  Development,                                                               
reminded  the committee  that his  emphasis is  in community  and                                                               
rural  issues.   Prior  to  the loss  of  the department's  other                                                               
deputy  commissioner and  the removal  of the  funding, he  noted                                                               
that  he  observed what  the  department  was doing  in  economic                                                               
development.   The approach that Representative  Austerman brings                                                               
is important  because it's important  in terms of how  Alaska can                                                               
address  economic  development.   He  pointed  out that  economic                                                               
development  represents  a  multitude  of  organizations  in  the                                                               
state,  many of  which are  fragmented and  don't fall  under any                                                               
overarching  strategy.    Mr. Black  noted  his  appreciation  of                                                               
Representative Edgmon's  question regarding whether AIDEA  is the                                                               
nexus for economic  development.  Any entity  with stable funding                                                               
becomes a  nexus, he  remarked.  He  opined that  DCCED "cobbled"                                                               
together  OED from  remnants  of  what was  left,  such that  the                                                               
former  Division  of Tourism  is  now  just  an element  of  OED.                                                               
Furthermore, the  emphasis on minerals  and other  industries are                                                               
now just  a couple  of staff.   Mr. Black  said that  although he                                                               
believes OED can be a very  valuable part to any strategy that is                                                               
developed, it  doesn't have the  resources to  do so on  its own.                                                               
Therefore,  he applauded  the  partnership  programs through  the                                                               
ARDORs and AIDEA.  The situation seems  to be at a point at which                                                               
there is an opportunity now to finally bring things together.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:05:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON recalled that a  very similar discussion occurred                                                               
earlier during  session.  Therefore, he  questioned whether DCCED                                                               
should be  split into two  departments as it  was in the  past or                                                               
are the divisions within DCCED strong.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK said  he believes  that the  current department  has a                                                               
multitude  of functions  and associated  organizations, including                                                               
AIDEA   and  the   Alaska   Aerospace  Development   Corporation.                                                               
Although  recreating   the  former  Department  of   Community  &                                                               
Regional  Affairs might  provide  more focus  [for community  and                                                               
regional  affairs] as  well  as the  other  remnants of  economic                                                               
development, he opined  that focus should be able  to be achieved                                                               
without  creating separate  departments.   Mr.  Black stated  his                                                               
belief  that  the answer  to  Co-Chair  Herron's question  is  to                                                               
provide  resources and  a clear  vision and  mission of  what the                                                               
resources are to achieve.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:07:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON inquired  as to whether Mr.  Black considered the                                                               
possible  areas   of  discussion   for  the  legislature   to  be                                                               
surprising or predictable.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACK responded that although  none of the possible areas for                                                               
discussion" jumped out at him," they were all excellent ideas.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:07:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   AUSTERMAN  interjected   that   the  steps   the                                                               
legislature may want to take  will surface after more discussion.                                                               
He expressed  hope that this  committee would pick up  this issue                                                               
and  start  holding  hearings  once   the  session  starts.    He                                                               
acknowledged  that DCCED  has been  working  on a  model of  what                                                               
Alaska looks like today and  will have some suggestions regarding                                                               
how to  move forward.   Hopefully, the department will  return in                                                               
early January  to discuss the  model.  He reminded  the committee                                                               
that APED is already in the process  of working on Phase I of its                                                               
process  and could  provide some  information in  early February.                                                               
Furthermore, the governor's office  and the LEGACY discussion are                                                               
occurring.  Moreover, there are  a lot of other interested people                                                               
with ideas that  could be invited to a public  hearing to present                                                               
testimony.   Representative Austerman expressed the  hope that by                                                               
the halfway point  of the session, some of the  ideas could begin                                                               
to gel.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:10:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  related his  partial commitment  to the                                                               
private/public sector board similar to  what other states have in                                                               
order that it oversees everything.   Although currently there are                                                               
numerous organizations  reviewing economic development,  there is                                                               
no  coordination  to bring  everything  together.   He  suggested                                                               
having  a private/public  sector board  with an  exempt executive                                                               
director  that  the  state  would   fund,  and  therefore  he/she                                                               
wouldn't  fall subject  to political  whims.   The aforementioned                                                               
could actually  achieve better direction  and a  cohesive working                                                               
group.   He further suggested  that such  a group should  meet at                                                               
least monthly in  the first year to  address economic development                                                               
in  Alaska.   Although  he  acknowledged  that the  governor  has                                                               
mentioned  having  an  advisory group  on  economic  development,                                                               
Representative Austerman  had the  impression that it  might only                                                               
meet  once a  month.   Representative Austerman  opined that  the                                                               
state is actually  past that point and rather is  at the point of                                                               
having a working group.  In  closing, he reiterated the desire to                                                               
have this committee start the aforementioned process in January.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:13:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  committed to doing  that.  However,  he reminded                                                               
everyone of his request to Ms.  Bell and the commissioner to work                                                               
together  with   himself,  Co-Chair  Munoz,   and  Representative                                                               
Austerman prior to the new proclamation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUTERMAN  invited those interested to  contact his                                                               
office regarding the large libraries  of information online about                                                               
economic development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:14:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MUNOZ expressed  interest  in having  reports from  the                                                               
Forward Challenge,  AIDEA strategic plan, and  the LEGACY project                                                               
at the  end of  January or  early February.   She  also expressed                                                               
interest in having input from  private industry, from each of the                                                               
state's  industries   regarding  removing  barriers   to  private                                                               
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:15:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON,  speaking to the energy  side, highlighted                                                               
that there  will be debate  regarding the usefulness of  having a                                                               
separate  entity   within  state  government  for   energy.    He                                                               
expressed the hope that the topic  of energy does not get lost in                                                               
these  discussions  of  economic development.    Furthermore,  he                                                               
related  that  he   is  struck  by  the  fact   that  three  core                                                               
responsibilities  of government  are  housed  in one  department.                                                               
Therefore,  the  following  question   comes  to  mind  regarding                                                               
whether DCCED  is being asked  to do more  than it is  capable of                                                               
doing.   Representative Edgmon stated  that he is leaning  in the                                                               
direction of returning DCCED to two departments.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:17:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN pointed out  that the private sector has                                                               
to invest in itself or it goes  out of business.  While the State                                                               
of Alaska isn't  a business, it has the same  basic concepts as a                                                               
business.   Therefore, if the  state doesn't invest in  itself or                                                               
departments aren't  funded to perform  their work, then  it's the                                                               
legislature's fault.   Legislators need to take a  strong look at                                                               
what should be done to invest in Alaska to make it grow.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  opined that there could  be a fear that  this is                                                               
an evaluation  process of  the department  and that  employees at                                                               
the bottom will  lose their jobs.  However,  he reminded everyone                                                               
that this  is a performance  audit, and  the review will  be from                                                               
the top not the bottom, as far as departmental employees.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:19:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 1:20 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AIDEA_HouseC-RA_12-04-09.pdf HCRA 12/4/2009 10:00:00 AM
Alaska Forward Summary HCRA 12.4.09.pptx HCRA 12/4/2009 10:00:00 AM
Economic Development Hearing Doc..pdf HCRA 12/4/2009 10:00:00 AM
Economic Development in State Government
OED Only Programs Final 10 15 09.pdf HCRA 12/4/2009 10:00:00 AM
Office of Economic Development